Geekly Good Weigh In: The Marvel Netflix Universe Geekly Good Weigh In: The Marvel Netflix Universe

22 Oct , 2018

Daredevil season one was the Iron Man of the Marvel Netflix Universe. It exploded onto the scene in 2015 and since then I’ve been watching both seasons non-stop… I’m serious… non-stop. I can’t get enough of the endless adrenaline and the cool martial arts skills and the blood spilling, gut-wrenching action and and and… 


Okay, I’ll stop geeking out so hard. But besides Daredevil, are the other shows NEARLY as good? Maybe not—Iron Fist did get canceled recently. And, a week after, Luke Cage got canceled too!


But that’s beside the point. In celebration of Daredevil season 3, the Geekly Goods crew (Leo (Me) and Stu) weigh in on some of the other shows by picking out favorites from different categories. We’re skipping Daredevil because that’s cheating. 

 

Best Supporting Character 

Leo's Pick: Micro (Punisher) 

I mean, talk about the ULTIMATE ally. Micro was a braniac and a brilliant hacker who could find out anything. Like Frank, he goes to the end of the earth of his family. Literaly... the dude fake dies twice for them. Him and Frank are so similar in motivations, yet very different in character. Makes for fun banter throughout the series and establishes him as one of Frank's very few trusted friends. And, again, dude faked his death twice for his family's safety so he's got guts (after the second time). 

Stu's Pick: Ward Meachum (Iron Fist)

This is kinda hard to talk about without any spoilers, but I will try.  Season 1 of Iron Fist, this is a total scumbag. He’s doing everything that his dad wants and is the typical spoiled brat asshole that we all love to watch. But lurking below that really shallow character is a wealth of emotion and doubt and fear that is perfectly realized in Season 2. The theme of addiction and exploring how that affects people around you is just fantastic. The scene where he hears some special news when he is outside the door of his AA group is just heartbreaking. Kudos to the writers and to Tom Pelphry for bringing this character alive!

Best Villain

Leo's Pick: Billy Russo (Punisher)

Part of me loves Billy Russo so much because the changes they gave him from his comic book counterpart. Not only did they make him Frank’s best friend, but they also made him like a brother to Frank. This solidified a story that was more relatable. At the end of the day, I’m way more attached to the character because of it. While his motivations behind doing all this to Frank are super so-so, the brotherly bond always makes for an epic, emotionally packed climax. And if he’s back for season 2, I’m thinking he'll get some Kingpin level development. This guy is strict, unforgiving, and hellbent on revenge, just like Frank. It sets up a compelling juxtaposition between two characters with similar motivations AND similar ways of carrying out their plans, but just on different sides of the fence.

Cottonmouth is a strong runner-up for a few reasons—A. He was VERY well put together with a suit and tie, yet he wasn’t afraid to beat a little guy to a bloody pulp over a minor robbery. B. He really played an evil royalty role. He had the club and he stood at the top, that was all that mattered. Dude was RUTHLESS and showed everyone he ain’t nobody’s b***h.

Stu's Pick: Kilgrave (Jessica Jones)

I took the easy route on this one, but I honestly couldn’t think of anyone that even comes close.  First of all, David Tennant (of Dr. Who and Broadchurch fame) is absolutely phenomenal in his performance and there’s just something to his delivery that bleeds arrogance and evil.  I also love his villainous intent; there’s no grand plan to take over the world or anything like that, it’s honestly just to live a lavish lifestyle on the backs of his mind control victims.  And then there’s the one that got away: Jessica Jones. For someone who can get anything he wants, being opposed by someone strong enough to resist him brings out his worst (or the best depending on your perspective).  When he holds a WHOLE police precinct hostage? Or when he tortures his insane science freak parents? Or when he makes Luke Cage fight Jessica?? There are just so many great moments to choose from. My only disappointment with Kilgrave is that they decided to kill him off.

Most Badass Fight Scene 

Leo's Pick: Midland Circle Hallway (Defenders)

Hallway fight scenes might not be the only fight scenes out there, but they ARE the best! In this DOPE montage, we see each of the Defenders deliver top of the line fighting moves on some rusty bodyguards. Luke Cage is breaking barriers down, Daredevil is flipping off walls… and some of these are going on in the shot AT THE SAME TIME. The steady cam follows each hero for establishing shots and everyone has a moment of fighting. It moves from place to place and gives us bits and pieces of each hero tearing down a group of baddies on their own or with another Defender. I mean, DAMN! This is almost better than Avengers (okay, I’m lying). It certainly achieves a similar feeling, though—bringing these characters together on the battlefield.

Stu's Pick: Colleen Wing Cage Fight 2 (Iron Fist)

Look, I get it, it’s not a hallway fight but that’s not the only kind of fight scene out there! Basically, I love the idea of this Kung Fu teacher taking her skills to the street and schooling some suckers in a cage fight. THEN when she comes back to the cage fight and requests a 2 on 1 fight for higher stakes? Mannnnnnn that’s the definition of badass to me. And I need to give a little credit to the stunt team and choreographer here, they created a savage rage-filled fight scene where Colleen is breaking peoples bones and headbutting them into oblivion. It also established this fairly unknown comic character into a strong badass woman who is, at the least, a challenge for the Iron Fist. I would loooooove to see more of her in any other show!

Best Series

Stu's Pick: The Punisher

Again I feel like I’m taking the easy route here, but it’s just hard to deny the greatness of this character and the first season (I’ll even throw in the added bonus of Daredevil Season 2).  It’s good old-fashioned revenge but the writers figured out how to make a small twist and elevate this series above some of the ummmm “middling” seasons of Marvel shows. And the whole Micro storyline is soooooo amazing!  I would have watched this show just for Micro! I loved the foundation that this show built and I’m looking forward to the next season almost as much as anything on television right now!

Leo's Pick: Jessica Jones

Well, since Stu decided to take my pick (and HE KNEW I wanted that one!) I will choose my next contender for the best series—Jessica Jones. The best thing about JJ is the other genres it blends into a typical superhero show, mainly mystery and suspense, and the strong and messy infatuation that Kilgrave has for Jessica. And… I can’t say this enough… this season had one of my favorite villains of all the seasons… Kilgrave, Kilgrave, KILGRAVE. As a villain, he was one a true psycho. 

Stu: To retort, there was no rule that said we couldn’t both pick the same show and I have to agree on JJ as being really really good, that was my other pick and I took the easy way out.  I’m sorry I failed you!!!


Leo: Bouncing off that, I just want it officially known that I was all-in on Punisher first. You have not failed, I slept on it too hard…

Dumbest Choice by a Character 

Stu's Pick: Ward hiding Harold's resurrection from Joy (Iron Fist) 

I’m going to quote Jimmy from South Park here “Come on, I mean, come on.” This is just the stupidest written in plot hole that the entire first season rests on. It’s just terrible. There’s no reason why his sister couldn’t have been in on the secret.  And honestly, it’s an annoying trope to keep her in the dark when even Danny knew he was alive.  It is a great character moment for Ward to be so gutless that he can’t disobey his father, but there had to be a better way to get this across.  Did Joy honestly never think to hire a PI to track her brother? And nobody ever questioned the expensive penthouse that kept getting paid for somehow????  They could have figured out some other way to make Harold Meachum’s strange connection to The Hand relevant and make it work without the audience having to completely suspend their disbelief immediately in the first episode.  But hey, this is a story about a white guy with magical Kung Fu skills that he gained by defeating a dragon in a mystical city sooooooooooo I guess this isn’t the MOST implausible thing in the whole show?

Leo's Pick: Luke Cage taking over Harlem's Paradise

Maaaaan when Luke Cage decided to take over Harlem’s Paradise it made NO sense. Why would the central hero of the story decide to crown himself the city’s biggest threat?! C’mon Luke, you’re supposed to be the neighborhood hero all the brothas lookup to! But seriously—Luke is the hero of the people. He’s supposed to be this character who doesn’t need accolades or recognition for his cause… but that’s what this ultimately boils down to… someone going COMPLETELY against character. Want to know what’s worst? There are absolutely zero reasons to justify his decision… even though that’d put him at the top… isn’t that EXACTLY what Luke fought against? In a grand scheme of things, it doesn’t make sense.

So, how'd we do? Are you team Leo or team Stu? Let us know in the comments below! 

To catch up before season 3, check out 'Everything You Need to Know About Daredevil' 

We also added some Daredevil shirts to the store. Get 'em while they're hot! 

Daredevil season one was the Iron Man of the Marvel Netflix Universe. It exploded onto the scene in 2015 and since then I’ve been watching both seasons non-stop… I’m serious… non-stop. I can’t get enough of the endless adrenaline and the cool martial arts skills and the blood spilling, gut-wrenching action and and and… 


Okay, I’ll stop geeking out so hard. But besides Daredevil, are the other shows NEARLY as good? Maybe not—Iron Fist did get canceled recently. And, a week after, Luke Cage got canceled too!


But that’s beside the point. In celebration of Daredevil season 3, the Geekly Goods crew (Leo (Me) and Stu) weigh in on some of the other shows by picking out favorites from different categories. We’re skipping Daredevil because that’s cheating. 

 

Best Supporting Character 

Leo's Pick: Micro (Punisher) 

I mean, talk about the ULTIMATE ally. Micro was a braniac and a brilliant hacker who could find out anything. Like Frank, he goes to the end of the earth of his family. Literaly... the dude fake dies twice for them. Him and Frank are so similar in motivations, yet very different in character. Makes for fun banter throughout the series and establishes him as one of Frank's very few trusted friends. And, again, dude faked his death twice for his family's safety so he's got guts (after the second time). 

Stu's Pick: Ward Meachum (Iron Fist)

This is kinda hard to talk about without any spoilers, but I will try.  Season 1 of Iron Fist, this is a total scumbag. He’s doing everything that his dad wants and is the typical spoiled brat asshole that we all love to watch. But lurking below that really shallow character is a wealth of emotion and doubt and fear that is perfectly realized in Season 2. The theme of addiction and exploring how that affects people around you is just fantastic. The scene where he hears some special news when he is outside the door of his AA group is just heartbreaking. Kudos to the writers and to Tom Pelphry for bringing this character alive!

Best Villain

Leo's Pick: Billy Russo (Punisher)

Part of me loves Billy Russo so much because the changes they gave him from his comic book counterpart. Not only did they make him Frank’s best friend, but they also made him like a brother to Frank. This solidified a story that was more relatable. At the end of the day, I’m way more attached to the character because of it. While his motivations behind doing all this to Frank are super so-so, the brotherly bond always makes for an epic, emotionally packed climax. And if he’s back for season 2, I’m thinking he'll get some Kingpin level development. This guy is strict, unforgiving, and hellbent on revenge, just like Frank. It sets up a compelling juxtaposition between two characters with similar motivations AND similar ways of carrying out their plans, but just on different sides of the fence.

Cottonmouth is a strong runner-up for a few reasons—A. He was VERY well put together with a suit and tie, yet he wasn’t afraid to beat a little guy to a bloody pulp over a minor robbery. B. He really played an evil royalty role. He had the club and he stood at the top, that was all that mattered. Dude was RUTHLESS and showed everyone he ain’t nobody’s b***h.

Stu's Pick: Kilgrave (Jessica Jones)

I took the easy route on this one, but I honestly couldn’t think of anyone that even comes close.  First of all, David Tennant (of Dr. Who and Broadchurch fame) is absolutely phenomenal in his performance and there’s just something to his delivery that bleeds arrogance and evil.  I also love his villainous intent; there’s no grand plan to take over the world or anything like that, it’s honestly just to live a lavish lifestyle on the backs of his mind control victims.  And then there’s the one that got away: Jessica Jones. For someone who can get anything he wants, being opposed by someone strong enough to resist him brings out his worst (or the best depending on your perspective).  When he holds a WHOLE police precinct hostage? Or when he tortures his insane science freak parents? Or when he makes Luke Cage fight Jessica?? There are just so many great moments to choose from. My only disappointment with Kilgrave is that they decided to kill him off.

Most Badass Fight Scene 

Leo's Pick: Midland Circle Hallway (Defenders)

Hallway fight scenes might not be the only fight scenes out there, but they ARE the best! In this DOPE montage, we see each of the Defenders deliver top of the line fighting moves on some rusty bodyguards. Luke Cage is breaking barriers down, Daredevil is flipping off walls… and some of these are going on in the shot AT THE SAME TIME. The steady cam follows each hero for establishing shots and everyone has a moment of fighting. It moves from place to place and gives us bits and pieces of each hero tearing down a group of baddies on their own or with another Defender. I mean, DAMN! This is almost better than Avengers (okay, I’m lying). It certainly achieves a similar feeling, though—bringing these characters together on the battlefield.

Stu's Pick: Colleen Wing Cage Fight 2 (Iron Fist)

Look, I get it, it’s not a hallway fight but that’s not the only kind of fight scene out there! Basically, I love the idea of this Kung Fu teacher taking her skills to the street and schooling some suckers in a cage fight. THEN when she comes back to the cage fight and requests a 2 on 1 fight for higher stakes? Mannnnnnn that’s the definition of badass to me. And I need to give a little credit to the stunt team and choreographer here, they created a savage rage-filled fight scene where Colleen is breaking peoples bones and headbutting them into oblivion. It also established this fairly unknown comic character into a strong badass woman who is, at the least, a challenge for the Iron Fist. I would loooooove to see more of her in any other show!

Best Series

Stu's Pick: The Punisher

Again I feel like I’m taking the easy route here, but it’s just hard to deny the greatness of this character and the first season (I’ll even throw in the added bonus of Daredevil Season 2).  It’s good old-fashioned revenge but the writers figured out how to make a small twist and elevate this series above some of the ummmm “middling” seasons of Marvel shows. And the whole Micro storyline is soooooo amazing!  I would have watched this show just for Micro! I loved the foundation that this show built and I’m looking forward to the next season almost as much as anything on television right now!

Leo's Pick: Jessica Jones

Well, since Stu decided to take my pick (and HE KNEW I wanted that one!) I will choose my next contender for the best series—Jessica Jones. The best thing about JJ is the other genres it blends into a typical superhero show, mainly mystery and suspense, and the strong and messy infatuation that Kilgrave has for Jessica. And… I can’t say this enough… this season had one of my favorite villains of all the seasons… Kilgrave, Kilgrave, KILGRAVE. As a villain, he was one a true psycho. 

Stu: To retort, there was no rule that said we couldn’t both pick the same show and I have to agree on JJ as being really really good, that was my other pick and I took the easy way out.  I’m sorry I failed you!!!


Leo: Bouncing off that, I just want it officially known that I was all-in on Punisher first. You have not failed, I slept on it too hard…

Dumbest Choice by a Character 

Stu's Pick: Ward hiding Harold's resurrection from Joy (Iron Fist) 

I’m going to quote Jimmy from South Park here “Come on, I mean, come on.” This is just the stupidest written in plot hole that the entire first season rests on. It’s just terrible. There’s no reason why his sister couldn’t have been in on the secret.  And honestly, it’s an annoying trope to keep her in the dark when even Danny knew he was alive.  It is a great character moment for Ward to be so gutless that he can’t disobey his father, but there had to be a better way to get this across.  Did Joy honestly never think to hire a PI to track her brother? And nobody ever questioned the expensive penthouse that kept getting paid for somehow????  They could have figured out some other way to make Harold Meachum’s strange connection to The Hand relevant and make it work without the audience having to completely suspend their disbelief immediately in the first episode.  But hey, this is a story about a white guy with magical Kung Fu skills that he gained by defeating a dragon in a mystical city sooooooooooo I guess this isn’t the MOST implausible thing in the whole show?

Leo's Pick: Luke Cage taking over Harlem's Paradise

Maaaaan when Luke Cage decided to take over Harlem’s Paradise it made NO sense. Why would the central hero of the story decide to crown himself the city’s biggest threat?! C’mon Luke, you’re supposed to be the neighborhood hero all the brothas lookup to! But seriously—Luke is the hero of the people. He’s supposed to be this character who doesn’t need accolades or recognition for his cause… but that’s what this ultimately boils down to… someone going COMPLETELY against character. Want to know what’s worst? There are absolutely zero reasons to justify his decision… even though that’d put him at the top… isn’t that EXACTLY what Luke fought against? In a grand scheme of things, it doesn’t make sense.

So, how'd we do? Are you team Leo or team Stu? Let us know in the comments below! 

To catch up before season 3, check out 'Everything You Need to Know About Daredevil' 

We also added some Daredevil shirts to the store. Get 'em while they're hot! 

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